{"id":117064,"date":"2017-09-01T14:00:05","date_gmt":"2017-09-01T22:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=117064"},"modified":"2017-09-01T14:51:45","modified_gmt":"2017-09-01T22:51:45","slug":"john-podhoretz-calls-steve-sailer-a-loathsome-reprllent-racist-filth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=117064","title":{"rendered":"John Podhoretz Calls Steve Sailer &#8220;a Loathsome, Reprllent Racist Filth&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">In case you were wondering whether Steve Sailer was a loathsome, reprllent racist filth, wonder no longer. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/NibEcV2umH\">https:\/\/t.co\/NibEcV2umH<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jpodhoretz\/status\/903440382494728192\">September 1, 2017<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><A HREF=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/john-podhoretz-americas-leading-wit-calls-me-a-loathsome-reprllent-racist-filth\/#comments\">Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>* If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be his greatest fan.<\/p>\n<p>What people like Pod fear most is Independence. Independence means a people will put their interests first and at center. Pod wants all white Americans to put their own identity\/interests in the back-burner to serve the greater \u2018good\u2019 of globalism dominated by Elysium Club that allows ethno-centrism only for Israel.<\/p>\n<p>When Hindus began to put their identity and interests first, they no longer wanted to serve the \u2018higher\u2019 interests of the British Empire.<\/p>\n<p>If a people want to opt out of globalist supremacism, they are attacked as \u2018supremacist\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>* For years you\u2019ve been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR.<\/p>\n<p>But in all that time you\u2019ve never explained your absence from TAC for whom you once wrote.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose this is as good a time to ask as any.<\/p>\n<p>* \/pol\/ is the politics board on 4chan. It followed the example of the netoyo from Japan\u2019s 2ch (a site launched in Conway, Arkansas!) who were notorious as anonymous online ultranationalists who blame Koreans for all of the nation\u2019s ills, with Jews swapped in as villains instead. It\u2019s been the breeding ground for lots of memes, of which cuck\/cuckservative is probably the most famous right now. The insult took off sleuths discovered site owner Christopher \u2018moot\u2019 Poole\u2019s gawker-employed girlfriend was cheating on him during gamergate.<\/p>\n<p>* \/pol\/ is the politics board of 4chan (hence the white nationalism\/anime connection), and it\u2019s relevant because it\u2019s basically where the alt-right was born. It\u2019s where bored young white men (like my friends in high school) went to waste time online by talking anonymously about politics, without fear that \u201ccontroversial\u201d opinions would get censored. (I\u2019ve seen Steve very favorably referenced a few times there, incidentally.)<\/p>\n<p>* Podhoretz, also known as J.P. Normans-son, either believes:<\/p>\n<p>1. our Steve is secretly a Daily-Stormer-reading NatSoc, sharpening his bayonet as he awaits the Day of the Rope.<\/p>\n<p>-or-<\/p>\n<p>2. Steve\u2019s mild-mannered civic nationalism is \u201ca loathsome, reprllent filth\u201d tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.<\/p>\n<p>I am honestly unsure which it is. In any case, it\u2019s probably safe to say that Twitter accounts with blue checkmarks and parentheses are some of the biggest recruiting tools that the Alt Right has.<\/p>\n<p>* At The Weekly Standard, one staff member said, Podhoretz\u2019s \u201carrogance and egotism had a psychological effect people can\u2019t quite believe.\u201d At The Washington Times a colleague reported, he was \u201cpermanently frozen in juvenalia.\u201d Glenn Garvin, the Central American bureau chief of the Miami Herald, once said that at the Times, Podhoretz \u201cconstantly complained that his brilliance wasn\u2019t appreciated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Podhoretz is emphatic in his defense of Israel in its conflicts with its Arab neighbors. When pundit Pat Buchanan called Israel\u2019s actions in the 2006 Lebanon War \u201cun-Christian\u201d, Podhoretz wrote: \u201cYou want to know what anti-Semitism is? When Pat Buchanan calls Israel\u2019s military action \u2018un-Christian.\u2019 That\u2019s anti-Semitism.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Podhoretz has supported the Iraq War from its inception until the present. In his book, Bush Country, he wrote, \u201cThe natural terrorist hunger to acquire WMDs, and Saddam Hussein\u2019s desire to humiliate the United States, combined to make Iraq a new kind of threat to America and the world.\u201d In a July 25, 2006 column for the New York Post that discussed the Israel-Lebanon conflict, Podhoretz advocated a more Machiavellian policy in Iraq, writing: \u201cWhat if the tactical mistake we made in Iraq was that we didn\u2019t kill enough Sunnis in the early going to intimidate them and make them so afraid of us they would go along with anything? Wasn\u2019t the survival of Sunni men between the ages of 15 and 35 the reason there was an insurgency and the basic cause of the sectarian violence now?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>* I cannot figure why his mother (who is a capable essayist) and father (who could assemble an interesting magazine) did not dissuade him from a career in opinion journalism. He produces satisfactory book reviews, but is otherwise mediocre. He\u2019s a graduate of the University of Chicago, so a deficit of brains per se is not his problem; he just lacks the necessary verbal agility.<\/p>\n<p>* In the early days of NRO, I really enjoyed the Corner, which at that time was sort of a conservative proto-twitter. It had a heady, fun, friendly vibe. Then they let JPod in, and all of a sudden the whole thing went to hell as he would have these bizarre, unprovoked rage attacks. It was really odd.<\/p>\n<p>* The Weinsteins are synonymous with Oscarbait movies. Nobody else is close to them. I couldn\u2019t have chosen anybody else without confusing readers. It would be like referencing somebody other than Meryl Streep as an Oscar-honored actress.<\/p>\n<p>* Never been to \/pol\/?<\/p>\n<p>Uh oh. I\u2019m afraid that Steve is about to undergo some very dramatic changes.<\/p>\n<p>* JPod doesn\u2019t believe a damn thing.<\/p>\n<p>He knows what\u2019s left of his power depends on leveraging SWPL\/Jewish paranoia\/status anxiety to keep more capable writers like Sailer in the ghetto on trumped up charges pour enourager les autres.<\/p>\n<p>* I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II. Perhaps civic nationalism is constantly undermined because it is seen as creating favorable conditions for intermarriage.<\/p>\n<p>* Podhoretz\u2019s argument about why it was the fault of the Palestinians that Mossad assassinated by mistake a Palestinian waiter in Norway is like saying it\u2019s the fault of black people that the LAPD, when hunting frantically for black rogue cop Chris Dorner, shot up those two Mexican ladies delivering newspapers.<\/p>\n<p>* Maybe he should take character lessons from David Brooks.<\/p>\n<p>* Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?<\/p>\n<p>Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming \u201cdiversity\u201d into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right \u2014 the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks \u2014 pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.<\/p>\n<p>Or maybe JPod sees \u201cWeinstein\u201d and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that\u2019s what he\u2019s worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve\u2019s comment didn\u2019t even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.<\/p>\n<p>Hey, John, it\u2019s not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn\u2019t see \u201cWeinsteins\u201d and think \u201cJoooooooos!\u201d They see it and think, \u201cthose are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters.\u201d Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.<\/p>\n<p>* The most famous, and popular, is 4chan\u2019s:<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/boards.4chan.org\/pol\/catalog<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s more free-wheeling and tolerant of fun, gets more traffic, probably half the population is non-white, though you wouldn\u2019t think it.<\/p>\n<p>Less famous and less populated, the more hardcore 8ch(an):<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/8ch.net\/pol\/catalog.html<\/p>\n<p>\u2026 \u2018nazis\u2019 split off from 4chan over ideology. I mention them because they\u2019re more effective at scheming and autistically putting together photos to dox people.<\/p>\n<p>People go back and forth, from 8ch for plans, to 4chan to recruit help (mostly). When people want to scheme privately, they\u2019ll open a \u2018discord\u2019, a free, all-purpose live communication platform originally developed for gamers.<\/p>\n<p>* Podhoretz\u2019s rhetoric is the verbal equivalent of Antifa throwing feces.<\/p>\n<p>* I don\u2019t know that he cheats on his wife or cheats on his taxes. I\u2019ve no reason to believe he\u2019s ever advocated anything he didn\u2019t actually believe, although the opinion-monger trade does induce people to play particular stereotyped roles. He does have a sense of himself and his social circle that tends to inflate their importance and sophistication. (See the obituary of his sister in which he chuffers about how accomplished his brother-in-law was at age 36; his brother-in-law was a lawyer with a fund of liberal education who had certain connections and certain modest administrative talents; he wasn\u2019t any more accomplished than a mid-level business executive of a sort you can find in any small city in America).<\/p>\n<p>Whatever dynamic which prevailed between JP and his parents after 1982 was the wrong one. He never acquired any post-baccalaureate schooling or worked in a trade for which you could say he was suitable. Instead, he wrote mediocre newspaper columns for the New York Post, ate too much, dressed badly, married very late in life, had no children until he was nearly 40, and ended up taking over the dregs of his father\u2019s magazine when the American Jewish Committee and his father\u2019s puppy dog Neil Kozodoy decided they were done with it. He seems like a character who might be skewered or pitied in a short story by Joan Didion or John Updike.<\/p>\n<p>* Steve\u2019s citizenism is the core of what pisses JPod off. Along no doubt with Steve\u2019s \u201cnoticing\u201d and in particular contrasts of what\u2019s kosher in Israel versus here.<\/p>\n<p>But this is still a bit off. \u201cSailerism\u201d\u2013i.e. citizenism\u2013which Steve advocates is not what Israel practices\/what JPod approves of. Israel is openly an ethno-nationalist state and not just in a nodding \u201cthis is our culture\u201d sort of way, but in a policy specific sort of way (e.g. selective immigration).<\/p>\n<p>More accurate would be to say that if Richard Spencer applied \u201cSpencerism\u201d to Israel alone JPod would be his greatest fan.<\/p>\n<p>While JPod is pretty much a loon\u2013often seeming to be no more than a crude caricature of Jewish ethnic resentments\u2013his particular line of thought on these sorts of issues seems quite common among a whole slew of Jewish commentators from center-left through right:<\/p>\n<p>Israel is \u2026 Israel, a nation, the homeland of the Jewish people. And Israel must do anything that is necessary to preserve itself as the homeland of the Jewish people.<\/p>\n<p>All other nations, however, are in the category of \u201chost nations\u201d. They must be \u201copen\u201d. They in particular must be ever open to the Jews or else they are \u201canti-Semitic\u201d. And white nations in particular must be deconstructed to be open to all and \u201cmulticultural\u201d so that minorities\u2013like Jews\u2013can always feel welcome. And super-specifically the United States is the ultimate \u201chost nation\u201d and has no legitimate native character\u2013it\u2019s a \u201cnation of immigrants\u201d\u2013and must have open immigration to utterly drown those racist rednecks who somehow think they have some claim on it.<\/p>\n<p>* Per published captions, the rescuer is Daryl Hudeck, and the rescuee is Catherine Pham and child (i.e. Southeast Asian).<\/p>\n<p>Outside of this particular corner of commentary, the big controversy about this picture was when blogger Matt Walsh made a commonsensical observation:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWoman cradles and protects child. Man carries and protects both. This is how it ought to be, despite what your gender studies professor says.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And lo, the wrath of the harpies did descend upon him. Out of the many pointings and shriekings, the official curators of Twitter instructed Tweeters to read the Tweet thread by Christina Wolbrecht, whom they identified as a \u201cReal Professor,\u201d explaining interminably why Walsh\u2019s Tweet was Problematic.<\/p>\n<p>* To understand the tangled history of the feud between Conservatism Inc. and the Dissident Right, it helps to see just how hysterically the likes of JPod react to even the most mild challenges to the Proposition Nation:<\/p>\n<p>7\/11\/2005 &#8211; JPod triggered by Derb&#8217;s criticism of birthright citizenship<br \/>\n<br \/><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit\/\">http:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>7\/13\/2005 &#8211; JPod calls Sailer &#8220;a scum&#8221;<br \/>\n<br \/><A HREF=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/please-keep-attacking-me\/\">https:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/please-keep-attacking-me\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>7\/17\/2005 &#8211; Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz <i>contra<\/i> JPod<br \/>\n<br \/><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.vdare.com\/articles\/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer\">http:\/\/www.vdare.com\/articles\/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer<\/a><\/p>\n<p>9\/3\/2005 &#8211; Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing<br \/>\n<br \/><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.vdare.com\/articles\/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare\">http:\/\/www.vdare.com\/articles\/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare<\/a><\/p>\n<p>9\/5\/2005 &#8211; JPod triggered; early use of &#8220;point &#8216;n&#8217; sputter&#8221;<br \/>\n<br \/><A HREF=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies\/\">https:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>9\/7\/2005 &#8211; Sailer cites <i>Commentary<\/i> and AEI contra JPod<br \/>\n<br \/><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly\/\">http:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/pol.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/pol-300x133.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"133\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-117087\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/pol-300x133.png 300w, https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/pol-768x340.png 768w, https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/pol.png 999w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In case you were wondering whether Steve Sailer was a loathsome, reprllent racist filth, wonder no longer. https:\/\/t.co\/NibEcV2umH &mdash; John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) September 1, 2017 Comments at Steve Sailer: * If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=117064\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[42742],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-117064","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-john-podhoretz"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/117064","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=117064"}],"version-history":[{"count":23,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/117064\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":117088,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/117064\/revisions\/117088"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=117064"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=117064"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=117064"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}