{"id":112688,"date":"2017-02-11T19:33:27","date_gmt":"2017-02-12T03:33:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=112688"},"modified":"2017-02-11T19:36:04","modified_gmt":"2017-02-12T03:36:04","slug":"the-conversation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=112688","title":{"rendered":"The Conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.unz.com\/isteve\/nyt-why-is-mark-twain-allowed-to-contribute-to-the-cultural-conversation\/#comments\">Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>* \u201cHave you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cconversation\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Have you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cpride\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship?<\/p>\n<p>Have you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cdissent\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship?<\/p>\n<p>Have you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cgender\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship?<\/p>\n<p>* The NYT comments on this review agree with you, Steve, overwhelmingly, which must tell us something though I\u2019m not sure what. Multi-cultural revisionists coming out of the woodwork? Or out of the closet. The cultural winds continue to shift.<\/p>\n<p>* The problem is that the cultural achievements of Western civilization are overwhelmingly the work of stale pale males and no amount of whistling past the graveyard can totally cover that up. There wouldn\u2019t be a ton of art of literature to enjoy or discuss otherwise.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Comments at Steve Sailer: * \u201cHave you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cconversation\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship.\u201d Have you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cpride\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=112688\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21791],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-112688","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-america"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Comments at Steve Sailer: * \u201cHave you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cconversation\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship.\u201d Have you noticed how the once innocent word \u201cpride\u201d has recently taken on Stalinist connotations of indoctrination and censorship? 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