{"id":108647,"date":"2016-10-11T12:29:16","date_gmt":"2016-10-11T20:29:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=108647"},"modified":"2016-10-11T12:51:12","modified_gmt":"2016-10-11T20:51:12","slug":"is-it-the-message-or-the-messenger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=108647","title":{"rendered":"Is It The Message Or The Messenger?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n

* Yeah, if only we could find the right messenger and say it in the right way, the left-wing establishment and SJW\u2019s will be OK with someone opposing their whole globalization, invade the world, invite the world agenda.<\/p>\n

I thought Pat Buchanan was a fairly innocuous guy, and a DC insider, but it turns out that once he stopped being \u201cConservative\u201d and supporting Bush I, he was discovered to be a vicious anti-Semite who hated women and blacks, and was an unpatriotic cowardly draft dodger.<\/p>\n

I believe something similar happened to Tom Tancredo and Richard Lamm. Both of whom went from respected politicians to hate filled kooks when they started discussing immigration control.<\/p>\n

* What Alexander doesn\u2019t get is that if Trump loses, Hillary and her SJW crew both within the government and everywhere else will take it as a permanent defeat for what they regard as the forces of darkness, and will go full speed ahead on the PC agenda \u2014 including, of course, installing SC justices who will for a generation see to it that our free speech is limited by \u201chate speech\u201d rules. It will not matter to them that they have to reverse any number of previous rulings, because those came from an unenlightened age.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s easy to imagine that there\u2019s going to be some blowback eventually if they push PC too hard. But there\u2019s no good reason to believe this. Human beings have a great capacity to adjust to new norms, however onerous. If human societies could be as oppressive about, say, sexuality as they were in the Victorian or Puritan era, they can be equally as rigid and punitive about \u201cmicroaggressions\u201d that violate identity politics norms. The only thing preventing us from going down that slippery slope is our own traditions and laws, and those can be altered over time. It\u2019s really not in any way obvious where the end point of this might be, the stable point where there is so much dissent that it can\u2019t be made any worse \u2014 and especially if the political correctness becomes enshrined in law, and identity groups themselves vote to sustain it.<\/p>\n

People imagine the PC pendulum must swing back. But it\u2019s swung only one way for any length in our entire lifetimes \u2014 how can we pretend to know where that swing must end?<\/p>\n

If Trump wins, even if he weren\u2019t to get a second term, and was regarded as a failure, he would clearly represent a potent force in society that couldn\u2019t be entirely ignored. If he doesn\u2019t, it\u2019s not clear why another politician, with more congenial attributes, and the same point of view, and good electoral prospects, would be likely to appear in our lifetime. From the standpoint of the elites, he would in any case be another Trump, and would be subjected to the same treatment for the same reasons.<\/p>\n

* Steve, when do you think the PC dam is going to break?<\/p>\n

It didn\u2019t break with the Bell Curve, it didn\u2019t break with Summers, it didn\u2019t break with Watson, it didn\u2019t break with Mike Brown, it didn\u2019t break with 9\/11\u2026Is there something coming down the pike with the Beijing Genomics Institute that we can hope for?<\/p>\n

* The purpose of PC is to conceal the truth. It started with the problem of there being no rational explanation for low black academic achievement other than they are, as a people, not as intelligent as others. This has been known for at least 2000 years and was simply accepted. Since the Civil Rights era acknowledging this fact became forbidden and once it became forbidden it opened the door to concealing other unpleasant realities. Some concessions have had to be made. Women have to compete in separate sports venues, the mentally retarded are not admitted to Ivy League schools and some minimal physical standards can be a condition to hold certain jobs. Beyond that though PC is allowed to run rampant today. A person who cannot walk is not \u2018crippled\u2019 they are merely \u2018differently abled\u2019 and a black planetarium director becomes the greatest astrophysicist alive.<\/p>\n

* While Pat Buchanan is not a Enoch Powell level genius, he\u2019s probably the smartest serious candidate for President we\u2019ve had in the past 50 years and has led an exemplary personal life beyond a few barroom brawls when he was young.<\/p>\n

He\u2019s written a dozen books about history, political theory, and demography, which is easy to forget since he has a regular guy persona.<\/p>\n

I do not recall the media being especially mean to him in the 1992 primary, but I was a kid then and perhaps they would have been if he had become the nominee as opposed to the guy who was dividing the GOP at the time and sucking resources from the likely nominee.<\/p>\n

* Going back to the debate, I was happy to see Trump was not a disaster again, but on policy I was really disappointed.<\/p>\n

He abandoned his Muslim ban, a huge winning issue for him. They way he wins if voters are thinking in the voting booth, \u201cDo I want more Muslims in America, or not?\u201d Instead he retreated to the dumb talking point, on which Hillary is in complete agreement, that we can continue to have more Muslims but need to \u201cvet them\u201d more.<\/p>\n

On health care, he repeatedly lied about premium increases (no, premiums are not going up more than 50%, I have an Obamacare plan and it has increased about 8% a year, which is typical) and repeated the retarded GOPe talking about about what a miracle it would be if we could sell insurance \u201cacross state lines.\u201d<\/p>\n

On taxes, he plan is another George W Bush indefensible and massive tax cut for the 1%. There was nothing stopping him from offering a huge tax cut for the middle class, something easy to understanding like cutting the payroll tax or exempting all income below $50,000. The one thing good he said was about the carried interest loophole, but that was too wonky for 95% of Americans to understand.<\/p>\n

* The Vagina Defense Force is the problem here.<\/p>\n

The actual recording of Trump\u2019s comments is filled with laughter. It\u2019s two guys boasting and catcalling. So what if there is x-rated language.<\/p>\n

Trump specifically was talking about the CELEB-OBSESSED women and other women of the type that move around famous billionaire guys like moths around a flame.<\/p>\n

The real travesty here is ignoring the daily reality of good looking famous rich men getting the green light from huge numbers of women. Every day.<\/p>\n

Otherwise normal women are frequently complete sluts for celebrity men. Deal with it, America.<\/p>\n

I guarantee that the married woman in question loved the attention from Trump. She knew exactly what was going on.<\/p>\n

Once again the global vagina defense force wants to have it both ways. They want presumption of non-sluttery and the freedom to act like a total slut around super alpha males.<\/p>\n

\u201cYou can have it all, baby!\u201d<\/p>\n

* You don\u2019t need to look for a respectable messenger in order to win. You first have to win and then suddenly you\u2019re respectable and respected.
\nFirst you defeat the PC establishment and then you can safely send Murray, Watson, Buchanan and Sailer on a lecture tour.
\nNobody\u2019s ever won a political fight with arguments.<\/p>\n

* Sure, Trump is a flawed vessel for the nationalistic and anti-PC spirit.<\/p>\n

But he has a unique combination of eff-you money, star power & communication mastery to weather the massive onslaught from all sides that the globalist & elitist forces are throwing at him.<\/p>\n

Nobody else right now could do what he is doing. If he can survive, others with less obvious flaws will follow. But first, a nationalist, anti-PC politician has to survive.<\/p>\n

* A producer at The Apprentice claims he has footage of Donald Trump saying the N word. This is suppose to be the October surprise from the Left.<\/p>\n

Steve should do a blog about this and point out that our current president Barack Hussein Obama has also said the N word.<\/p>\n

* Seriously, does any adult talking about this crap on TV not know the basics of normal heterosexual relations, which involve a series of escalating steps initiated by the man toward greater physical intimacy, and the various cues involved, almost all of them NON-VERBAL? That what Trump was talking about is perfectly fine at the start, middle, or end of a physical encounter between heterosexual adults, all depending on a CONTEXT which adults are supposed to understand as if an unspoken language? Groping, if you faithfully communicate in this language, is just another word for foreplay.<\/p>\n

Not saying that the tape is any good for Trump, but there is nothing legally or even ethically askew about it and any grown man or woman damn knows it. It is simply a matter of manners and- for a dwindling share of the population- morals, and no more problematic than breaking wind in public; problem for Trump is that the electorate is perfectly within its rights to decide for a President on those grounds.<\/p>\n

** To be fair to Alexander, the million leaked credit cards #\u2019s from ASHLEY MADISON from men who really think there any normal women out there trolling for one-off sex on the Internet shows the cluelessness out there is pretty broad.<\/p>\n

* They were talking about how their celebrity caused women to be receptive to their advances, which is not exactly a shocking observation.<\/p>\n

Never in human history has a man seduced a woman by leading off with \u201cdo you consent for me to kiss you\/place my hands upon your body?\u201d He talked about moving in aggressively but didn\u2019t say anything to indicate he wouldn\u2019t take \u201cno\u201d for an answer. Anderson Cooper saying something along the lines of \u201cYou were talking about sexual assault. You realize that, right?\u201d was one of the most infuriating moments of the debate. Sexual assault is more like, I dunno\u2026 maybe holding a woman down, biting her lip open and telling her to put some ice on it after you\u2019re done raping her.<\/p>\n

* It\u2019s the messenger not the message.<\/p>\n

Powell hamstrung the anti-immigration movement for decades. Anyone arguing the case was labelled powellite.<\/p>\n

Instead of sticking to reasonoable arguments about the inadvisability of turning Britain into a multi-ethnic state, he littered his speech with soundbites like \u201crivers of blood\u201d and \u201cgrinning pickanninies\u201d. Pure stupidity.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t blame Powell personally, he was probably on the autistic spectrum, IMHO.<\/p>\n

The pity of it was that he became the poster boy for the anti-immigration movement.<\/p>\n

* There are a bunch of reasons [Steven Pinker has not gotten into trouble with the PC police], some of which are worth imitating for those who want to take HBD more mainstream.<\/p>\n

1. He\u2019s careful and moderate with his language
\n2. He\u2019s witty
\n3. He tends to present the data but let the reader draw their own conclusions
\n4. He does the \u201csafety in numbers\u201d tactic of publishing the most controversial research with 10+ co-authors
\n5. He limits his association with deplorables (though he does seem to retweet some academic deplorables)<\/p>\n

Some factors more unique to him:<\/p>\n

1. Jew privilege (did not save Larry Summers, but university president is a more vulnerable position to Watsoning than tenured professor)<\/p>\n

2. He has mentored a lot of the smartest people in the field. This is made easier by the fact that psychology does not exactly attract great minds like physics does, and he is a senior tenured Harvard professor.<\/p>\n

* He does not discuss racial differences, which is the politically correct third rail in academia. According to Cochran, Pinker told him and Harpending that if he tried to test their Ashkenazi Jewish theory he would be out of job at Harvard. He knows were the fault lines are, and will not cross them.<\/p>\n

* The \u201cTrump tape\u201d wasn\u2019t boasting. It was a process to get himself in character for the TV show he was about to act in. He had to become that character, the Braggart New York Boor. He used to do that character a lot in his rally speeches, \u201cI\u2019m really really rich.\u201d The audience knew what he was doing.<\/p>\n

Isn\u2019 t that what \u201cmethod\u201d acting is, where they become the character? I think I read that Meryl Streep became that bitchy career the whole time they were filming \u201cDevil Wore Prada.\u201d Anne Hathaway said something like at the start of filming Meryl told her that was the last time Anne would like Meryl.<\/p>\n

He was playing the Braggart NY Boor doing locker room talk. He\u2019s a pretty good actor in that character he created. Its not Hamlet but its a different person from the way he was in interviews 30 years ago, even though he kind of said he same stuff.<\/p>\n

* The question is \u201cwould someone classier, smarter, more knowledgeable than Trump have done better or worse than he\u2019s doing now, all else being equal?\u201d<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know. Pat Buchanen is classier, smarter and more knowledgeable than Trump, he ran on very similar issues twice, and he did worse. But there could have been lots of reasons for this. Ceteris is never paribus in history. Maybe the time wasn\u2019t right.<\/p>\n

The most popular blog on the net is Perez Hilton\u2019s. I think Perez\u2019s IQ is close to the population mean, and I\u2019m guessing that this helps him connect with millions of readers. If Steve set himself the goal of creating the most popular blog in the country, would he have succeeded? Maybe not. Maybe you have to be average, or at least close to it, to connect with the masses. Maybe this is one of those things that one can\u2019t fake.<\/p>\n

And maybe it\u2019s more important for a populist politician to connect with the masses viscerally because all of the media will be against him and he\u2019s not going to be able to run a lot of ads.<\/p>\n

Leftism uses people\u2019s social aspirations. It\u2019s convinced people that it\u2019s upscale, hip, trendy, cool. But lots of people have given up on being cool because of their age, weight, bad looks, bad jobs, lack of smarts, etc. That incentive doesn\u2019t work on them. So they\u2019re less repulsed by political messages that have been declared uncool by the media. They\u2019re the natural constituency for an anti-establishment politician.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s the alternative? To redifine what\u2019s cool, hip and upscale? That would be very, very difficult. An upscale spokesperson for unconventional political ideas is perceived as an irrelevant exception. Because he actually is an exception.<\/p>\n

Has any nationalist pol succeeded at attracting the intelligentsia in any country in modern times? I can\u2019t think of any. But getting a majority by mobilizing the working and lower middle classes \u2013 that\u2019s been done in other countries. It\u2019s harder to do in America than in Eastern Europe, for example, because Americans are divided by race. But it\u2019s conceivable even in America. Trump will probably only lose by a few points.<\/p>\n

* It could only have been Trump. Maybe in the future there will be a conventional politician who holds crimethink opinions who will have the cajones to step into the breach and be an articulate, reasonable voice for common sense\u2026 but as they say these days common sense ain\u2019t so common.<\/p>\n

It was the improbable combination in Trump of being opinionated, vain, arrogant, a prominent celebrity, and hewing to a certain strain of mid-century blue collar Archie Bunkerist common sensical political opinion that led us to where we are. Not only was he able to express what apparently 60% of white people are thinking, he was able to con the media into giving him millions of dollars of in kind campaign contributions of air time by being inherently newsworthy given his 30+ year history of making himself a public spectacle.<\/p>\n

But it\u2019s too true that pretty soon only 40% of white people will be able to admit to themselves that our country is good and the form it had before mass importation of third world people was worth preserving. And that means that it\u2019ll be more like 30% of all voters who will even be interested in the good old days.<\/p>\n

Which is so annoying. I work in a very g-loaded profession, and amongst my colleagues any opinion other than thinking Trump is an annoying clown with monstrous opinions is completely unheard of. And yet\u2026 their revealed preferences of who they would like to associate with reveal they don\u2019t really think that a society made up of no-skill third world toilers is as good as a high trust society made up of people like them.<\/p>\n

They don\u2019t marry Salvadoran nannies and they certainly wouldn\u2019t let their daughters date the sons of Afghani cab drivers. And of course their daughters wouldn\u2019t want to date those people. They aspire to home ownership and middle class upstanding citizenship, but don\u2019t give a moment\u2019s thought to the fact that those things are so much more affordable in flyover country than in the coastal elite cities where they live, or why. They don\u2019t seem to think that masses of people cramped into favelas on a hill with an elite caste of millionaires living down below in luxury gated communities is a good thing, and yet they never think twice about the open borders consensus and the PC culture that implies that we have to welcome in billions of third world immigrants.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s the thing that\u2019s so annoying about our new PC overlords: the ethos that is driving this whole shitshow is just so insipid. Everyone is beautiful in their own way! There\u2019s no value judgment to be made between a nobel prizewinner and a Pakistani goatherd\u2013 each has their own gifts to bestow to the mixed salad that is 21st century America!<\/p>\n

It really is shameful that all 16 other Republicans who saw fit to run for President this year couldn\u2019t articulate what really is a quite simple message: you don\u2019t have to pretend about the Emperor\u2019s clothes anymore. That tells you all you need to know about the state of the Party in 2016 and its chances going forward if they don\u2019t find some new people who are actually willing to engage with the way the world really is and not how it appears in a Jack Kemp pamphlet from 30 years ago. Maybe capital gains tax rates were an important thing to argue about back in that much simpler time when there were just blacks and whites and the country wasn\u2019t on the verge of permanent one party rule, but nowadays we\u2019re in an existential crisis. So if no one credible was willing to engage with the way the world actually was, we had no choice but to go with Trump.<\/p>\n

So sure, blame the messenger, he\u2019s obviously a cad, and much worse, too. But to have picked Jeb or Carly or whatever was to pick no one and to concede before the fight was even started. What would Alexander have had us do? Nominate Jeb, have him lose anyways, let HRC let in another million Muslims and another 5 million Latin Americans, and 4 years later wait for an articulate, debonaire nationalist who may or may not (probably would not) have been coming? It\u2019s insane.<\/p>\n

* Enoch Powell\u2019s ambition as a young man was to become the Viceroy of India. This was not delusional on his part.<\/p>\n

The British ruled India through the Indian Civil Service, an elite corps of mandarins. Entrants were 20 to 24 years old, and had passed through one of the great British boarding schools or finished university. University was not required. A young man at 18 who had passed through an English boarding school was expected to have the intellectual, writing, and speaking skills\u2014 and maturity\u2014to begin to learn the work of ruling a country.<\/p>\n

Between the ages of 20 and 24, and after a suitable training period learning a local language and local customs, they became \u201cdistrict collectors\u201d or \u201cdistrict magistrates.\u201d These young men had the power of taxation, administration, and life and death over an entire district or county of a hundred thousand natives or more.<\/p>\n

They grew up fast back then, and were expected to do great things.<\/p>\n

Today, Goldman Sachs trainees attend Outward Bound courses.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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