{"id":108243,"date":"2016-09-30T11:55:12","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T19:55:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=108243"},"modified":"2023-08-31T03:38:14","modified_gmt":"2023-08-31T11:38:14","slug":"daily-beast-tries-to-take-down-mike-cernovich","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=108243","title":{"rendered":"Daily Beast Tries To Take Down Mike Cernovich"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I think this is a disgusting piece. None of the quotes from Cernovich in this Lloyd Grove article are heinous. They strike me as within the range of normal and healthy opinion.<\/p>\n<p>I am neither a Cernovich fan or detractor. I followed him for a while on Twitter, but tired of the self-promotion. So I rely on others to retweet him when he says something important, which does seem to be often. <\/p>\n<p>It seems like the point of Daily Beast articles such as this is to shut down dissent. They will go to great lengths to destroy those who challenge the Narrative. <\/p>\n<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2016\/08\/09\/why-did-fox-news-welcome-date-rape-apologist-mike-cernovich.html\">Daily Beast<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Why Did Fox News Welcome Date Rape Apologist Mike Cernovich?<\/p>\n<p>As Roger Ailes\u2019s sexual harassment scandal continues to unfold, Fox News is being forced to answer why Mike Cernovich was invited to be a guest on \u2018Red Eye.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;So some folks, especially conservative activists and pundits who are normally sympathetic to the Fox News brand, are expressing disbelief that male-centric blogger, Twitter troll and ardent Donald Trump fan Mike Cernovich was booked as a guest last week on the cable channel\u2019s popular Red Eye show.<br \/>\n\u201cYou\u2019ve got to be kidding me. He\u2019s a nutcase,\u201d said right-wing author and radio host Ben Shapiro. \u201cGranting any legitimacy to a fringe kook like Mike Cernovich, and all of the attendant nastiness and problems, is close to insane by any cable network.\u201d<br \/>\n\u201cAre you serious?\u201d asked Ben Howe, a writer and editor of the conservative blog RedState, when informed of Cernovich\u2019s Fox News appearance. \u201cHe was a guest on fucking Red Eye? They\u2019re giving this motherfucker legitimacy? Oh my god!\u201d<br \/>\nA Fox News spokesperson said Red Eye\u2019s producers didn\u2019t know about their guest\u2019s extensive Internet footprint and history of ugly online disputes (including with #NeverTrump pundits Shapiro and Howe). The spokesperson added that Cernovich isn&#8217;t a paid contributor, and won\u2019t be invited back.<br \/>\nYet Red Eye host Tom Shillue slathered Cernovich with on-air praise when he appeared on the 3 a.m. August 4 episode to fervently defend Trump and trash Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, who has reluctantly endorsed the Republican presidential nominee, as a politician who \u201cdoesn\u2019t care about America. He wants open borders. He\u2019s a globalist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI love this guy,\u201d Tom Shillue told viewers. \u201cMichael, can you be back here tomorrow night?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><\n\nShillue added: \u201cI love the hell out of the guy, and we\u2019re probably going out after the show and have drinks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Whether or not Shillue was aware of Cernovich\u2019s gamey reputation, the 38-year-old non-practicing California lawyer\u2014a self-described \u201cradical free speech proponent,\u201d and the author of <i>Gorilla Mindset<\/i>, a self-published self-help book promoting male empowerment\u2014is famous to his 78,000-plus Twitter followers for his steady output of offensive and incendiary remarks, a veritable inferno of political incorrectness. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cHave you guys ever tried \u2018raping\u2019 a girl without using force?\u201d he <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Cernovich\/status\/234452349790322690\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tweeted in August 2012<\/a>. \u201cTry it. It\u2019s basically impossible. Date rape does not exist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>More recently, last February, he <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Cernovich\/status\/695757135578181632\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tweeted<\/a>: \u201cNot being a slut is the only proven way to avoid AIDS. If you love black women, slut shame them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And last month, after five police officers were killed by a sniper during a Black Lives Matter protest in Texas, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Cernovich\/status\/751532050876805120\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cernovich tweeted<\/a>: \u201cThe \u2018alt-right\u2019 hasn\u2019t killed anyone, but #BlackLivesMatter regularly slaughters the innocent. Know the real threat. Think! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Dallas?src=hash\">\u202a#Dallas<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>All the above are readily available to anybody with access to Cernovich\u2019s Twitter feed.<\/p>\n<p>Then there\u2019s Cernovich\u2019s blog, <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangerandplay.com\/2011\/09\/21\/how-to-avoid-a-false-rape-case\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Danger &amp; Play<\/a><\/i>, in which he endorses various conspiracy theories (\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangerandplay.com\/2016\/06\/15\/the-orlando-shooter-did-not-act-alone-update\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Orlando Shooter Did Not Act Alone<\/a>\u201d); muses about an \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangerandplay.com\/2016\/08\/06\/hillary-clinton-stroke-seizure-coughing-fits\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Expert Analysis of Hillary Clinton\u2019s Physical and Mental Breakdown<\/a>\u201d; slams the \u201cdishonest website called The Daily Beast\u201d; calls out \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangerandplay.com\/2016\/03\/30\/16-feminists-who-have-taken-over-conservative-media\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">16 Feminists Who Have Taken Over \u2018Conservative\u2019 Media<\/a>\u201d; and provides helpful hints on how to avoid being convicted of rape (apparently based on Cernovich\u2019s own experience of beating a felony rape charge, by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cernovich\/status\/738868216609542146\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">his own account<\/a>, after a sexual encounter in college).<\/p>\n<p><b>Avoid SJWs [Social Justice Warriors]. <\/b>If a girl you\u2019re on a date with expresses ideals similar to those expressed by social justice bullies, end the date. Stable, emotionally [sic] girls do not become social justice bullies. Smile, pay the bill, and leave immediately.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>*\u201c<b>Film it<\/b>. <a href=\"http:\/\/federalism.typepad.com\/crime_federalism\/2009\/09\/hofstra-student-made-up-gang-rape-story.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Four Hofstra college students were accused of gang-raping a fellow student<\/a>. They were thrown into jail, and held without bail. Had they gone to trial, they\u2019d have been convicted.<\/p>\n<p>Yet the men were released from prison, after one of the defendant\u2019s lawyers produced a cell phone video of the encounter, proving it was consensual.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201cIf the police call, don\u2019t answer<\/b>. Did you know that the police can lie to you? Did you know that the police will lie about what you tell them? Police will claim that you confessed to rape, even when you denied it to them. <b>NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a dangerous world out there, guys. Be vigilant. Protect yourselves at all time [sic].\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A Fox News spokesperson told The Daily Beast that Cernovich \u201cwas a onetime guest\u2026He has nothing to do with the Fox News Channel. The network has no plans to book him for a future appearance.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Red Eye\u2019s booking of Mike Cernovich is simply another ingredient in a toxic stew.<br \/>\n \u201cThat\u2019s horrifying,\u201d said conservative writer Bethany Mandel, who has also tangled with Cernovich on Twitter. \u201cThey should not be giving him any platform of legitimacy whatsoever. It\u2019s a very troubling thing in a post-Ailes Fox.\u201d<br \/>\nIn a phone interview, the Los Angeles-based Cernovich told The Daily Beast that he was invited on Red Eye through a \u201ccollege kid on Reddit\u201d who heard the show was searching for a Trump supporter and recommended him.<br \/>\nCernovich described the show\u2019s preparation for his appearance\u2014taped on the evening of August 3\u2014as \u201cpretty intense,\u201d adding, \u201cThey sent me an email saying \u2018here\u2019s 10 articles were going to discuss,\u2019 and when the camera goes on it\u2019s almost live with no editing.\u201d<br \/>\nHe said he believes there should be no limits to what can and should be said in public discourse, even if it\u2019s inflammatory or bigoted, and that he frequently tweets something outrageous \u201cjust to get a conversation going.\u201d<br \/>\nHis observations about sexual assault, he said, were from \u201ca time when I had 40 Twitter followers, and we were talking about girls\u2019 rape fantasies\u2026It\u2019s really hard to explain five years later without context. It looks like I\u2019m advocating rape\u2026 People bring up tweets that I don\u2019t even remember, and my general response is \u2018I don\u2019t know if I said it. I probably said it.\u2019 It\u2019s just part of what I do. People try to use it to discredit me. That\u2019s just the game.\u201d<br \/>\nCernovich said his Red Eye appearance was a rousing success, but he acknowledged a return engagement is doubtful because \u201cpowerful haters sent emails [to Fox News] saying this person is persona non grata. My appearance went great, but it made a lot of people mad that I was allowed on TV.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I think this is a disgusting piece. None of the quotes from Cernovich in this Lloyd Grove article are heinous. They strike me as within the range of normal and healthy opinion. 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