{"id":104686,"date":"2016-08-29T08:29:33","date_gmt":"2016-08-29T16:29:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=104686"},"modified":"2016-08-29T08:29:33","modified_gmt":"2016-08-29T16:29:33","slug":"what-orthodox-women-wear-to-the-beach-is-no-different-from-a-burkini","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=104686","title":{"rendered":"What Orthodox Women Wear to the Beach Is No Different From a Burkini"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The beach is a key part of Australian culture. 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