{"id":104414,"date":"2016-08-27T20:15:34","date_gmt":"2016-08-28T04:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=104414"},"modified":"2016-08-27T21:01:57","modified_gmt":"2016-08-28T05:01:57","slug":"white-nationalism-the-principle-and-the-practice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=104414","title":{"rendered":"White Nationalism: The Principle And The Practice"},"content":{"rendered":"

From the Chateau<\/a>:<\/p>\n

In honor of Hillary\u2019s schoolmarm harangue against the alt-right today, I\u2019ll jot down a few of my thoughts on the idea of White Nationalism (as a principle and as it would work in practice).<\/p>\n

First, a word on vanilla (heh) nationalism.<\/p>\n

Nationalism ultimately distills to racial nationalism, though the latter isn\u2019t required to prompt the former (or to sustain it for a while). A polyglot, Babelized citizenry corrodes nationalist principles and practices. A multicultural nationalism is an oxymoron over a long enough timeline. This is self-evident once we take it as a given that culture (aka nation) is inherited from the genetic legacy of its people.<\/p>\n

So in principle, White Nationalism is effectively a synonym for garden-variety nationalism, because a numerical onslaught of nonWhites would irretrievably alter the characteristics of a White-majority nation that followed a theoretically race-blind nationalist ideology (similar to Steve Sailer\u2019s Citizenism).<\/p>\n

In practice, though, avowed White Nationalism is a non-starter. Whites aren\u2019t a monolith. Italy looks and operates differently than England which looks and operates differently than Ukraine. There are four primary continental scale races \u2014 White, asian, amerind, black \u2014 and a nationalism ideology that attempted to place those races under an all-encompassing umbrella term would be viciously mocked and rebuked by popular revolt. There can be no Black Nationalism or Asian Nationalism or Amerind Nationalism. Try telling a Mexican he\u2019s indistinguishable from an El Salvadoran.<\/p>\n

Likewise, a White Nationalism movement will fail.<\/p>\n

Although I will say this in contradiction: If White Nationalism can work anywhere, it\u2019s most likely to find purchase in a Euro-mixed nation like America, and at a point when American Whites fall below 50% of the total population. (Spot the irony.)<\/p>\n

I\u2019ll have more to say on this subject in future posts, but for now my conclusion is to leave White Nationalism alone in favor of regular Nationalism. The White part will work itself out organically as the nation becomes less globalist and more nationalist.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

COMMENTS:<\/p>\n

* I can say that, overall, CH is correct, when one lumps all Whites together. I really do not favor the term, \u201cWhite Nationalism\u201d. The problem with White Nationalism is that, even if you remove the non-Whites from your midst, you can still end up with a high likelihood of nasty little fights like WWI and WWII, where nationalistic Whites (choosing their nations over the commonality that should have bound them together) decided to slaughter each other.<\/p>\n

Instead, I prefer the term \u201cRacially Conscious Whites\u201d, or some related term, to point out our common genes and culture, instead of the differences that separate us due to indiscriminate boundary lines on some map.<\/p>\n

As such, when I meet racially proud White brothers and sisters, anywhere in the world, who are not blinded, or held back, by national boundaries, I have more in common with them than the middle-of-the-road White neighbors on my street.<\/p>\n

Nationalism made these White brothers fight each other (and likely die). Let\u2019s not raise flags blindly.<\/p>\n

* Is obvious that all whites are not equal. More in behavior than in intelligence, (except germans\/north italians) very creative people luckily I have fresh blood of both.
\nNationalism can\u2019t back to Europe. Not only the 2 WWs but a lot of big pre world wars conflicts. I guess what you don\u2019t like from other whites because is the same I don\u2019t like:
\nSpaniards: collectivism\/ difficulties with abstract thought
\nItalians: corrupt,low law abiding
\nEE: extremely violent\/collectivism
\nIrish: don\u2019t know, anti individualism?
\nScots : ?
\nLet me tell now what the rest europeans don\u2019t like of you:
\nHardcore capitalism, loser\/winner mindset and the most important puritan moral collectivism\/too much rule abiding far away from the logical point.<\/p>\n

* It is worse than you describe.<\/p>\n

If a black man abandons Christianity for Islam, he is praised.
\nIf a black man associates with the Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, or NAACP, he may be promoted for his community participation.<\/p>\n

If a white man, a descendent of a Confederate soldier, joins Sons of the Confederacy, he may be fired for hate speech.<\/p>\n

* Respectfully, what CH is missing is that, what is unique about America, is it was the first nation or even first political organization of people NOT built on race or ethnicity, but on an ideal. Alt-Right\/ethno-racial nationalism is based on European political thinking. The latter is a way of thinking that goes back to the beginning of Human history. America made a break from this. It showed that it was possible, even ideal.<\/p>\n

Leftism, another European ideological import, exploits ethnic and racial groups for it\u2019s benefit, seeking to be in power. The Alt-Right, being an ethno-racial ideology also, reacts to such, and fights back, also seeking to be in power. Both however are ethno-racial based, even more so the latter however.<\/p>\n

America doesn\u2019t deny the influences of bio-mechanics and race and ethnicity. It developed a new way to organize and benefit from such influences. We need Constitutionalism more than we need White Nationalism. The latter is just a European leftist ideology based on race, ethnicity and bio-mechanics. It\u2019s a watered down Nazi Germany.<\/p>\n

* Racism arises from our need for self defense. We cannot defend ourselves as individuals, that\u2019s basic, so we have to join a group. Then, by defending the group we defend ourselves.<\/p>\n

But what group should we join? The problem is that of reciprocation. If we are going to join a group and risk our lives for it, other group members must also be willing to sacrifice for us or what\u2019s the point?<\/p>\n

But how can we know if others in the group will reciprocate? Well, to judge that we can only try to understand the mentality of others in our group, to know, in particular, how reliable they are or if they tend to be free riders.<\/p>\n

Every member of a racial\/family group expects others in the group to broadly think and act like himself. I broadly understand other North West European whites. They are generally kind of like me. So I am willing to take the chance of standing by them. A black, a Chinaman, or an Indian? By experience I know they are all free riders, see me as an outsider, and will never show loyalty to me or do their duty towards me.<\/p>\n

So I must side with my closest racial relatives.<\/p>\n

* White Nationalism is best and most reliable when it\u2019s situational: like during Katrina when lower class White locals and Euro tourists all circled together at the Superdome. Let our idealism follow the notion that we\u2019d better hang together or hang separately.<\/p>\n

* Difference between racial nationalism and plain nationalism:<\/p>\n

Racial nationalism \u2013 The state exists for the explicit benefit of a particular racial or ethnic group.<\/p>\n

Plain nationalism \u2013 The state exists for the benefit of all of its citizens, but still takes steps to prevent its core ethnic group from becoming diluted or outnumbered, because it relies on that group to function well.<\/p>\n

American nationalists should consider the old-school multi-ethnic empire model represented by Russia. A core ethnic group and various \u201cconfederated\u201d minority groups that are subordinated to it. The United States actually has a similar relationship with its Native American population. I think one of the tragedies of US history is that the African-American model for race relations has dominated while the Native American model is all but forgotten.<\/p>\n

* The problem with White Nationalism is that White people basically don\u2019t care about being White. \u201cPeople are people.\u201d This is our tendency because of our genetic heritage, individualism borne of evolving with low population density, and relentless jewish propaganda that tamps down any possible racialist reaction even in the face of blatant genocide.<\/p>\n

For White Nationalism to take off would require two things: 1) serious fucking economic pain. Like having to go hungry, not just being demoralized and 2) a religious awakening that has a racial component. Ben Klassen tried, but despite his well-thought-out arguments, it went precisely nowhere. You need 1 in order to have 2.<\/p>\n

Look at Islam, especially in the early days\u2013 \u201cI wish I could fight and die and be brought back again so I could fight and die and be brought back again, etc.\u201d Vikings and Valhalla. Crusades Era Christianity. The Empire of Japan\u2013 Emperor worship and kamikazes. The Third Reich\u2013 Aryans, Blut und Boden, Blut und Ehre. (((judaism))).<\/p>\n

Ideologies are weak. \u201cConservatism\u201d is weak. Communism was weak; it lasted barely 70 years in Russia. Even White Nationalism is weak. The intellectual arguments of Dr. Pierce, Dr. Duke, and Dr. MacDonald don\u2019t mean a thing to the vast majority of Whites. It\u2019s sad and I hate it, but it\u2019s true.<\/p>\n

The White race needs a transcendental spiritual awakening of some kind.<\/p>\n

* Wyndham Lewis wrote a travelogue of his time in America called \u201cAmerica and Cosmic Man\u201d in which he observed how well the same people who were at each others\u2019 throats in Europe got along in America, so it can be done.<\/p>\n

* White nationalism is really just Germano-Celtic\/Anglo-Celtic nationalism. I\u2019m sure all the forms of government and culture most white nationalists would want would be Anglo in origin and most of those supporting it would be of Anglo-Celtic descent (Anglo-Celtic = British Isles) or if not Anglo Celtic than Germano-Celtic (think the northwestern part of europe.)<\/p>\n

* Whatever the WN reflex becomes, I hope it\u2019s something more enduring than what it replaces. as some of the commenters noted above, a spiritual foundation is essential. otherwise our lower human nature will ensure that whatever lives are spent in the pursuit of something better will inevitably be wasted, and the fruits of our labor will be taken for granted again by our children and grandchildren.<\/p>\n