{"id":104150,"date":"2016-08-23T17:35:05","date_gmt":"2016-08-24T01:35:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=104150"},"modified":"2016-08-23T18:05:45","modified_gmt":"2016-08-24T02:05:45","slug":"hillary-will-denounce-alt-right-on-thursday","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=104150","title":{"rendered":"Hillary Will Denounce “Alt-right” on Thursday"},"content":{"rendered":"

Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n

* Don\u2019t assume Hillary\u2019s people haven\u2019t focus-grouped extensively this new ploy of hers to pick out some Emmanuel Goldsteins for voters to hate. Hillary\u2019s people usually know what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n

* Clearly, the most unifying, utopian position is to embrace endless immigration by Third Worlders, especially Muslims.<\/p>\n

But I wonder if her denunciation of the alt-right might backfire. A whole lot of people might hear about it, investigate, and discover a lot of what used to be called \u201ccommon sense.\u201d<\/p>\n

* I think I started reading \u201cAlternative Right\u201d in 2010 a few months after Richard Spencer founded it, and coined the term. I have to say I never thought I\u2019d see the day the Democratic candidate for President would devote a speech to denouncing his works. An incredible, wonderful achievement. <\/p>\n

* I\u2019m genuinely puzzled by this. Normal voters don\u2019t spend their free time talking about politics on the internet, so they\u2019ve never even heard of the \u201calt right.\u201d<\/p>\n

Republicans don\u2019t go around attacking Democrats by quoting obscure left-wing blogs.<\/p>\n

* This makes me wonder how many high level decisions are being made by Hillary Clinton. This only makes sense if you\u2019re knowledge of the alt-right comes from a few sections of text taken out of context and forwarded to you by the young folks on her campaign? Does anyone in her organization really \u2018get\u2019 the alt-right? Who the intellectual fonders are, what the basic concepts are?<\/p>\n

If I was running for Democratic ticket and I actually \u2018got\u2019 the alt-right, I would avoid mentioning it like the plague. I\u2019d talk vaguely about extremists and let my auxiliaries do the dirty work, I wouldn\u2019t mention them in a speech.<\/p>\n

Maybe there\u2019s a deeper understanding of politics going on here or this is part of some eleventh dimensional game of chess, but this sounds like an old woman who\u2019s mentally stuck in the 90s taking bad advice from other old people.<\/p>\n

But hell, what else can she campaign on? Other than co-opting Trump\u2019s campaign to the max.<\/p>\n

* And now we know why the media have been spilling a lot of ink about the alt-right in the last few days. They\u2019re telling Hillary who to attack.<\/p>\n

* The \u2018alt right\u2019 would not exist without Steve Sailer. It\u2019s nice, even for this alienated liberal, to see him slowly gain mainstream recognition as one of the most influential political thinkers in America.<\/p>\n

* So that was the genesis of Dave Weigel\u2019s pieces in the WaPo. He had a head\u2019s-up that this was coming, and was preparing the ground for the Clinton campaign.<\/p>\n

* It\u2019s not that puzzling. The alt-right has been promoting the delegitimization of elections and the political process in anticipation of a possible Trump loss in November. In the event of a Trump loss, that will eventually entail extra-electoral and extra-political activities. Hillary is laying the groundwork for the narrative that will be deployed if and when the government feels necessary to crack down as the alt-right\u2019s extra-electoral\/political activity intensifies.<\/p>\n

* It will be interesting to see the reaction to this speech, and how the \u201calt-right\u201d gets covered by the media in general. Bringing the alt-right to greater public attention could very well backfire on the Left. Hey, one can hope!<\/p>\n

I\u2019m still waiting for the Left to wake up to the fact that, as guys like Rod Dreher keep trying to explain to them, the \u201cpost-religious right\u201d is going to be a very, very different animal than what they\u2019re used to. Most of the liberals I speak with are still under the impression that the \u201calt-right\u201d is somehow part of the Koch brothers\/Christian fundamentalist Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, and they\u2019re pretty sure they can just run the same old playbook against them.<\/p>\n

Eventually they\u2019ll catch on, but right now it\u2019s fun to watch them stumble around. Like neocons who are still fighting the Cold War, liberals are lunging at shadows, trying to battle the empty space where their enemy used to be \u2014 while stirring up a lot of resentment with the way they keep accidentally blowing up noncombatant bystanders.<\/p>\n

* I will bet any amount of money that, if she does open up this can of worms, Hillary will tie Donald Trump to the \u201crape culture\u201d she will accuse PUAs of having.<\/p>\n

Remember that many men come to the Alt-Right via the red pill and pick-up blogs. It\u2019s a good intro: men wonder why all the advice they\u2019ve ever gotten about women hasn\u2019t worked, start a google search, and begin to question their feminist-indoctrinated beliefs. Soon they start admitting the sexes are very different, and then they get results with women, and then they are ready to question their other deeply-held beliefs, such as those about race, culture, and the like.<\/p>\n

Since the Left has already painted PUAs as sexist-mysognyists unpersons who are either (1) rapists or (2) losers living in their mothers basements, it wouldn\u2019t be much of a stretch for Leftists to make Trump responsible for rapes by these loser-rapists (of which there is no evidence).<\/p>\n

Roosh got swarmed in February by no less than the Washington Post, and although he\u2019s not folded and still going strong, damage was done.<\/p>\n

Of course she\u2019ll bring up the race realists. And probably her crew are working overtime to grab some links and screenshots to more inflammatory posts, posters, and such.<\/p>\n

But don\u2019t count out the fact that feminism is a big driver of Hillary\u2019s campaign, so race AND sexual BadThought in the Alt Right will be attacked.<\/p>\n

* Crooked Hildabeast most likely does not even know who Steve Sailer is. Even Alt-Right guys like Gavin McInnes and Anthony Cumia are more famous than Steve, because Gavin and Anthony are extroverts who make media appearances on Fox News and have their own podcast shows. Steve is an introvert hermit who likes to stay as low key as possible.<\/p>\n

* We\u2019re days away from one of America\u2019s presidential frontrunners all but name-dropping \/pol\/.<\/p>\n

As the young Canadian negro Drake would say, \u201cwhat a time to be alive.\u201d<\/p>\n

* Crooked Hildabeast won\u2019t call out The Unz, but she will call out Breitbart because they get way more traffic than The Unz.<\/p>\n

Breitbart is the WWE of the Alt-Right, while The Unz is the TNA of the Alt-Right.<\/p>\n

Breitbart is the big leagues when it comes to Alt-Right websites.<\/p>\n

* Bear in mind that the event that triggered \u201cTrump\u2019s embracing the alt-right\u201d was his recent hiring of Breitbart\u2019s Bannon. Breitbart is likely the evil face of alt-rightism to the Buzzfeed journalist class.<\/p>\n

Why did Weigel go with Sailer\/Brimelow\/Jared? Dug deeper into the old-school?<\/p>\n

* Contra Skeegs, this could actually be a pretty deft political move. It\u2019s a much bigger and more complex version of the reporter who asked Trump to denounce David Duke. Hillary\u2019s speech is going to paint the alt right as a rebirth of that old racism everybody knows exists on the right. Trump will be tied to and put in a position of repudiating or embracing. His track record shows he will probably not respond well, or, if he does, the media will just spin whatever he says out of control\u2026 the whole WaPo article is part of a big set-up to entrap Trump and re-inforce the idea that he\u2019s a racist at just the moment that he\u2019s planning to move left on immigration. If does it, he\u2019ll be left with no supporters on the right or in the center\u2026<\/p>\n

* I hope during Ms Clinton\u2019s lecture she mentions Francis Galton, iSteve, Hbd*chick, La Griffe du Lion, Ron Unz, Greg Cochran, Kevin MacDonald, Philipe Rushton, Arthur Jensen, Hernstein and Murray, Linda Gottfredson, IQ, neoteny, regression to the mean, the cenral limit theorem, the r-K continuum, TFR, differential fertility, smart fraction theory, dysgenesis, the g factor, the Flynn effect, Beysian statistics, psychometry, hyperethnocentricism and group evolutionary theory, Pearbothham\u2019s curve etc.<\/p>\n

I also hope she does not have another uncontrollable coughing fit, seizures, Tourettes-spectrum spaz out, vertigo\/double vision, memory lapse\/brain freeze, uncontrolled cackling episode, Parkinsonian tremor, catheter leak under her pantsuit or heavens forbid, start raising her voice sounding like Mrs. Bates berating Norman while refering to Trum\u2026 er.. her husband. I hope none of this happens during this very stressful\u2013 30 minute scene plus money shot \u2014 week for her prior to next weekend\u2019s three-day recuperation period.<\/p>\n

* She won\u2019t, but in preparation for this speech, any bloggers who might plausibly come up in people\u2019s Google searches for the alt right ought to be putting up posts right now on the themes (1) what the alt-right is (2) who\u2019s in it, and (3) how it\u2019s different from ye ol\u2019 slavery and apartheid.<\/p>\n

In addition, readers and commenters ought to be ready to take to the comment threads on media outlets and leftist blogs.<\/p>\n

Calling all alt-right bloggers\u2026 Calling all alt-right bloggers\u2026<\/p>\n

* Breitbart isn\u2019t even really an alt-right site per se, but is really more representative of the populist wing of mainstream conservatism. Alt-right ideas might have filtered down into it, and Milo might have drawn attention to the alt-right, but it\u2019s not really too different from mainstream conservatism except in tone and focus. Of course Hillary will denounce Breitbart as a white nationalist outlet, because she doesn\u2019t know or care about the nuances and divisions within the right, and it\u2019s just easier to smear your opponents anyways.<\/p>\n

* It\u2019s interesting what they\u2019ve done over there. They basically tossed out the anti-Israel stuff and avoided any of the weird monarchy stuff and watered down \/pol\/ about 50%. Seems to be working for them.<\/p>\n

* Does Hillary even look at the internet? Seriously, does she actually have any idea what\u2019s going on? I note that many older people use the internet, but simply replicate their original MSM consumption online. They\u2019re just reading the same lugenpresse they always did, merely in a different format. Plus they absolutely refuse to read online comments on MSM articles. Believe me I\u2019ve tried to get older relatives to take notice of things like that and they just won\u2019t acknowledge it means anything. (Not everyone over 65 is like this of course)<\/p>\n

Hillary is supposed to be a connected, switched on person and I\u2019m sure she has no end of people advising. But for herself, is the internet actually a thing at all, I suspect not.<\/p>\n

* The usual strategy the Left and media follow is to lump together both the reasonable people and the less reasonable people, and taint the former by association with the latter. So you\u2019ll see Steve (who\u2019s an HBD guy but a conventional citizenist) lumped together with Jared Taylor, a white nationalist, or the KKK. And Trump lumped together with both. That\u2019s why Weigel profiled both Sailer and Taylor.<\/p>\n

This lets them avoid making any actual argument. The equation is Trump = Sailer = Moldbug = Taylor = KKK. Notice that they don\u2019t have to bother addressing any of the perfectly reasonable and in fact majority views of Trump about immigration here, because Trump\u2019s the KKK, and therefore his views on immigration are those of the KKK.<\/p>\n

* They\u2019re going for the kill shot. I think it was Plouffe that tweeted that Trump doesn\u2019t only have to be defeated but soundly so his type never rises again. The Right will be allowed to exist but only on the Left\u2019s terms.<\/p>\n

Hillary isn\u2019t even campaigning and she\u2019s winning running away. Several polls came out today and none of them could be described as good for Trump. VA is out of reach. FL poll came out with Clinton up double digits. Another has him up one in Missouri and tied in SC although that one was a Dem sponsored poll.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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