March 23, 2007

200 People Show Up To Cathy Seipp’s Funeral Friday Morning

Mt. Sinai. 90068. 9:45 a.m. I drive up. There’s a crowd outside the chapel of assimilated Jews and goyim. This is definitely the place for me to advance my social prospects.

Attendees include Matt Welch, Emmanuelle Richard, Denise Hamilton, David Rensin, Luke Thompson, David and Julie Scott, Eugene Volokh, Larry Miller, Robert and Karen Avrech, Cathy’s ex-husband Jerry Lazar, Andrew Breitbart and his wife, Tim Cavanaugh, Moxie, Ruth Shalit, Jill Stewart…

Wilshire Boulevard Temple Rabbi Karen Fox presides over the funeral. Cathy Seipp met with her Nov. 29 to plan the thing. Because Cathy belonged to the temple, there was no charge to have a rabbi officiate at her funeral. But if one does not belong to a synagogue, the Los Angeles Board of Rabbis has set the fee for a rabbi to do a funeral at $500.

Judaism does not believe in having an open casket, nor an expensive casket nor flowers. It’s not a Jewish tradition to have the family sitting off to the side hidden from the attendees, but that is what is done Friday. Jewish funerals rarely take place in synagogues. Only for extraordinary religious leaders such as Ariel Avrech.

It doesn’t appear that any of Cathy’s family knows the words to the mourner’s kaddish.

Cathy’s aunt Jill, publicist Allan Mayer, author Greg Critser and humorist Sandra Tsing Loh speak.

My audio from the third row starts with the rabbi, then Jill, Allan, Greg and Sandra. Video of the crowd after the service. Video. Cathy Seipp’s Final Ride. Cathy Seipp’s Final Resting Place. A longer view. Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Maia, Jerry Lazar, Cathy and Michelle Seipp Cathy Seipp on her wedding day Cathy Seipp on her wedding day Cathy Seipp on her wedding day Cathy Seipp Cathy Seipp on her wedding day with her sister Michelle Cathy Seipp on her wedding day Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia Cathy Seipp with baby Maia

One topic of conversation at the funeral was Gazergate.

My thoughts:

* As soon as I saw Brian Grazer was going to guest-edit Current, I was jarred. Before I even thought about it, I felt something was wrong. Vanity Fair magazine has show business guest editors, but the LA Times Opinion section? It was a stupid idea. Steven Spielberg as guest editor is an equally stupid idea.

* It was a stupid idea for Andres Martinez to seek suggestions (let alone take one) from Allan Mayer or any publicist. Mayer’s job is to mold his client’s public image. Publicists are the journalist’s enemy. It’s fine to sleep with them but it is wrong to take their direction.

* I’ve heard from within the LA Times Opinion section that this was a "left-wing coup" to get rid of Andres Martinez for being too "pro-business." For instance, Martinez’s section opposed the city’s living wage proposal. Tim Rutten’s column March 24.

Rose (the fake name of a real person I know, the situation below is real though I am not going to apportion blame) writes:

Hi Luke, I am writing this anonymously…….but I must tell you, Cathy Seipp was a bitch! She invented a horrible, vicious, cruel lie about someone in my family. It was a hurtful lie and it did terrible damage to my entire family, but she never apologized. In fact, she kept perpetuating that lie to everyone right until she died. I’m shocked as I read the blog comments about Cathy. People are saying "She’s now an angel in heaven" and "She’s smiling upon the face of God." Others are saying "The world is a colder place because she’s gone." What bullshit!

 

My God….they never knew the REAL Cathy Seipp, did they? She was a selfish, malicious woman who obviously had borderline personality disorder. The damage she did to my family was horrendous beyond belief. And what’s really pathetic is….she taught her daughter to be the same kind of cruel bitch that she was. I actually laughed when I read her final blog comments…..she complained because caring and compassionate people brought her soup, she bitched because well-wishers brought her the "wrong" kind of food. Instead of saying thanks, she criticized them.

I’m not surprised that she was rude to you when you visited her in the hospital. I read a quote of hers….that cancer didn’t make her a better person. That was certainly true! Often, when people know they are dying, they become kind and compassionate. But Cathy remained a bitch to the very end. She didn’t know the meaning of compassion. Those who are praising Cathy on various websites and blogs weren’t libeled and slandered by her, as my family was. That’s the Cathy I will always remember. I don’t think she’s "singing with the angels!"

Sincerely, …..a Los Angeles resident [Eliot Stein's wife] who was tormented by Cathy Seipp.

Cathy only mentioned her mother to me once or twice and it was only when I pushed. Aside from her ex-husband, there was nobody Cathy was more cutting about than her sister Michelle. The one person Cathy asked me not to interview was Michelle.

Friday evening, Michelle had had enough of guests at the home where Cathy lived with her dad Harvey, and so Moxie and others were asked to leave.

Much of Cathy’s family remembers Cathy as a difficult and domineering woman. I was a friend of Cathy but I was never a Cathy partisan. I had no illusions about how difficult and domineering she could be. I was lucky in that I never needed her nor depended on her. I could walk away when she got mad at me. After a week or two, she’d always get over it and we’d be friends again.

Maia’s having hallucinations that she’s seeing Cathy.

Chaim Amalek writes:

Luke: Elizabeth Irwin and I (all of us here in New York) would like you to extend condolences tomorrow on our behalf to the Seipp/Lazar family – especially to Maia, who lost a mother, and to Harvey, who buries a daughter. Sigh . . . this is so sad. Elizabeth feels herself to be truly at wit’s end, with no place to go. I know you miss her (I do, and I only met her on two occasions), but consider yourself very, very lucky to have gotten to know Cathy Seipp and to have counted her as a friend. Most of us could go through fifty lifetimes without being lucky enough to ever meet someone like Cathy, let alone be able to look to such a person for advice. (In the future, will not her fans often find themselves asking, "What would Cathy have done/said/written?") When the time is right, you should suggest that her friends collect a sampling of Cathy’s work into a "The Best of Cathy Seipp" anthology.

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March 23, 2007
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Jackie Danicki » Cathy Seipp’s funeral @ 2:25 pm

[...] Our friend Robert reports on what sounds like a moving service and burial. Luke has audio from the eulogies (it’s a WAV, and not the best quality – could one of the sound file experts out there clean it up, possibly? Thank you, Luke, for thinking to take your tape recorder.). [...]

Chaim Amalek @ 3:14 pm

Is that the voice of Emmanuel Richard I hear, chastising you for taking videos of Cathy’s final resting place while you giggle “what a shock”?

I predict that Cathy’s departure from the scene will have a substantial destabilizing effect on Luke, possibly leading him to counter same through matrimony.

Luke Ford @ 3:29 pm

Yes it’s Emma

david n. scott @ 8:44 pm

Oddly enough, being amused at finally getting to see the Serial Killer Van ™, I took a picture of you filming the site. I’ll post it later. Didn’t get many pics because we didn’t want to be obtrusive.

I remembered why I don’t comment more…. I hate Typepad. But I figured it out.

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Jackie Danicki » The beat goes on @ 9:10 pm

[...] I gave myself Thursday to mope and make myself sick with tears, telling myself that from Friday onwards, I’d be constructive and productive while keeping Cathy’s family and other friends in my thoughts. And that is pretty much what I did today. But there are two things which I have found sort of heartbreaking upon my return home tonight: Maia’s post about her mother’s funeral (what a courageous, wise soul she is), and the pictures of Cathy with baby Maia which Luke has linked here. (The shaky video he made on the drive through the cemetery just filled me with a stronger anger and sense of injustice over her death than I have felt all week. It’s a beautiful place, it was a sunny day, and she should have been here to bask in it.) Cathy looks so much like Maia in this photo, and Maia so tiny, that it just plain hurts to look at what is really a very beautiful image. [...]

March 24, 2007
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Discarded Lies @ 8:42 pm

From a stranger

I’ve been depressed about Cathy Seipp’s death the last few days and I didn’t even read her blog. I first heard that she was sick when Kevin V posted about it on bloggie a few days ago and her name…

Chaim Amalek @ 11:26 pm

Now thet the truth about Cathy Seipp is finally coming out, let me add my two cents. Cathy failed to get me any of the jobs at Disney I secretly wanted you to ask her to swing my way. In fact, I didn’t even get an interview out of my relationship with her (through you, as in fact Cathy barely knew who I was), with the result that I never developed the juice necessary to ask ******* [Chaim mentions someone not known to any of my or Cathy's readers] out on a date or to be my wife. Moreover, none of her snooty blogger friends was ever willing to recognize in me the hidden genius that I possess, preferrring instead to engage in their onanistic blogger logrolling. And while I am at it, what has Luke Ford ever done for Chaim Amalek, eh?

There is much more for me to write here on this score, but I have run out of Frito Lay chips, Beef Jerkey and butter.

March 25, 2007

david n. scott @ 12:03 am

Hey, this post grew.

Does that mean Michelle is ‘a relative’, posting on Cathy’s, then?

I’d imagine if my mother, who Cathy reminded me of (not necessarily obliquely comparing myself to Maia here, I completely mean that my mother and Cathy seem very similar in the bad and good)

…if (well, when, really) my mother passes on, I bet the many people she has gored and run over will have a lot of mean things to say about her. Much of it will be deserved, even.

Hell, I’d probably have the most to say about anybody. But I think I personally would rather just let things lie and not bring them all up again.

But I s’pose I read Luke’s work for that very reason, the drudging things up.

Still, I’m incredibly torn about the timing on all this. I mean, it actually is interesting to me to hear more about Cathy’s Bad Sides, since I feel like I’m getting a better picture of her.

Certainly she, like 99.99% of the people, let alone Tough Media People, was no saint. But maybe leaving the legend intact a bit longer, while people are grieving, would be better? I dunno. I would strongly think so, but then I’m just some guy whose ADD let him click over to blogs and comment quickly.

jackiedanicki @ 1:47 pm

I am loath to give you the attention you crave, Luke, but: If this is the kind of cruelty you come out with against someone you call your “best friend” before her body is even cold, I’d hate to see what you do to your enemies. Or is it that you only really feel comfortable taking what you know to be unfair potshots against dead women? Do you care how Maia feels about you giving voice to Eliot Stein’s propaganda against her and her mother? Do you think it’s hard-hitting journalism to trash a woman who isn’t alive to defend herself?

Luke, you’ve told the world many times that you always hurt the ones you love, but I never believed you could be so vicious towards a woman who did so much to try to legitimize you.

Crid @ 4:57 pm

Jackie, Treacher recently said LA isn’t the global nexus of blogging that it claims to be, but the development of the blog scene here circa 2000 has been the most exciting development I’ve seen in this media capital since arriving in 1989. One charm of this trend is that it’s inherently experimental… Because its authors have experimental personalities. Luke is not like other people you might have in your life for other purposes. But neither is Treacher, or Alkon, or Reynolds or Danicki or Seipp.

She knew what he was about and chose him for a friend, often reporting on their times together on her own page. One reason we liked Cathy (and other local bloggers) so much was that her writing often concerned personal boundaries. The fact that other people couldn’t predict those boundaries made those people describe as her difficult. This was foolish of them. Cathy Seipp knew what –and who– she liked.

Luke’s additional comments are strange. But here’s a rule that you can take to the bank: WHENEVER SOMEBODY DIES, SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS SOMETHING STRANGE. I think this caused by the loss of a spirit, which sort of rattles the spirits of those nearby. Human spirits are not rational things anyway.

And let’s be blunt, we’re talking about Luke Ford here. If you’re the sort of person who easily takes offense, or dislikes the unusual, you have no business loading this page.

But if you’re the sort who thinks the dead watch over us silently, be confident that she’s forgiven any infraction, or will do so within what Luke says are the customary two weeks.

The daughter, however, may hold a grudge for awhile….

Crid @ 5:15 pm

OK, it would be really silly to take a rule to the bank. But you know what i meant.

Jim Treacher @ 10:22 pm

Well, that was a joke, but it’s one of those jokes that might kinda sorta have a tiny grain of truth in it.


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