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* When the term “intelligence community” is used, it’s always accompanied by a vignette about how brave and self-sacrificing the men (and women!) who serve in that establishment are. How they keep us safe.
It’s riding off the post-9/11 spirit of solidarity with fellow Americans against evil-doers. The point is to accord the deep st- sorry, the “intelligence community” with the same respect we accord our military.
That’s all well and good, I suppose, but I have a really hard time buying it. The problem is that while the rhetoric is supposed to evoke memories of 9/11 and the fight against Islamic terrorists, the reality is that the deep state consistently supported the Sunni rebels in Syria and Libya, knowing full well it would give rise to terrorist outfits. We’re getting the opposite of what we’re supposed to support.
So to that end, no, I don’t respect intelligence agencies as being anything other than a necessary evil. While I am grateful for any terrorist attacks they have likely prevented on US soil, the gratitude I do feel there is outweighed by my revulsion over how their policies have empowered terrorists like Al-Qaeda and ISIS in the greater Middle East. I also resent their forays into U.S. domestic politics.
Ultimately, all the talk in the world about the “intelligence community” keeping us safe is just a cover for how their ultimate enemy is Russia. I’d like to remind them that Al-Qaeda and the Taliban came about from our supporting the mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviets. So again, here we are where we’re supposed to feel gratitude for people who incidentally happen to fix the problems they have created for us.
* There are three interesting stories going on right now wtih the Trump presidency:
a. There are Trump’s actions–firing Comey, disclosing some super secret data to Russia, etc.
b. There are all the news stories which collectively show that the Trump White House is leaking like a sieve. Every internal argument and misstep shows up in the NYT the next day. That probably means Trump’s not benefiting from much advice–he can’t really trust his staff.
c. Finally, there is the overt and increasing discomfort of the deep state types with Trump. That also is visible in the news stories, which involve high level bureaucrats using their contacts with the press to make their concerns heard.
All three are important stories. I suspect (b) is the one that’s important in the medium term–Trump needs advisors more than most presidents (who usually have decades of political and government experience)! Without being able to trust his staff, he’s going to screw a lot of stuff up.
Long term, (c) worries me more. I think I understand a lot of the deep state concerns about Trump, and I share them. (If he seemed to know what he was doing, I’d be happy to see him departing from the ruling class consensus on the war on terror, say.). But unlike me, at least some of the deep state types could plausibly take steps to depose him–impeachment, scandal, maybe even assassination.
As best I can tell, Trump is doing s lousy job so far, and has little idea what he’s doing. Neither he nor anyone close to him seems to have thought deeply about how he should be governing. And yet, I really, really don’t want the deep state types getting into the habit of deposing elected leaders they find insufficiently serious or committed to their consensus vision of how the US should operate.
* Imperium in imperio is the Latin phrase.
Like the Deep State, a “state within the state” generally, refers to an entity within a state that’s beyond the control of the official state. It acts like a state, though technically it’s not. The Deep State, a particular kind of state within a state, is usually thought of as a part of the official government beyond the control of elected officials. They’re the ones who’re supposed to have the power in our form of government, or at least who are supposed to exercise through subordinates and appointees with limited official power.
But the term Deep State also applies to that part of the state that secretly runs the state as a whole, or at least has the most real power, though its power is unofficial. That’s the state within the state idea with an extra twist.
A church, for instance, or organized crime may he beyond the control of the government in whose sovereign territory they reside. But they’re not necessarily thought to be secretly controlling the government for that fact. That’s the way a lot of people see the Deep State.